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Never Not Building, a podcast hosted by Andrew Raso, Founder and Global CEO of Online Marketing Gurus – Australia’s leading digital marketing agency. This series explores the minds of entrepreneurs, marketers, and business leaders who are constantly creating, evolving, and pushing boundaries. Each episode offers thoughtful conversations on topics ranging from scaling startups and mastering digital marketing to navigating SEO trends and leading high-performance teams. With a focus on practical insights and real-world experiences, Never Not Building presents a grounded perspective on what it takes to build and grow in today’s business landscape.
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Every car dealer group in Australia said the risk was too big. Matt Wright took it, and sold the business six years later to Toyota Tsusho for $120M.
Matt arrived in Australia at 20 with a backpack and a working holiday visa, and worked his way through sales floors in Melbourne before founding Cars4Us in 2019. The business was built on a single move nobody else in the industry would touch, paying customers for their car on the spot, before he ever had possession of it. That decision became the reason customers picked him over the established groups, and it was the foundation for scaling to 260 staff and matching the market leader on volume within 60 days.
Eight months without electricity in a Bosnian war zone. The Sydney 2000 Olympics. A World Barista Championship title. And one of Australia’s most influential coffee empires.
Sasa Sestic joins Never Not Building to tell the whole story. He is the founder of Ona Coffee, the 2015 World Barista Champion, a former Olympian and the owner of 3 coffee farms.
Sasa’s family fled three wars before landing in Australia in 1997. He grew up moving house twenty times in seven years, dodging tanks and sleeping through nights with no power. Handball got him to the Sydney 2000 Olympics. When sport ended at 23, he was lost. What came next was seven straight years of losing the Australian Barista Championship. Judges told him his English was too poor, his accent too thick, that he didn’t belong. He kept going. On the seventh attempt, he won Australia. Then he won the world.
Today, Ona Coffee employs 160 people. He owns 3 coffee farms across Central America. He pioneered a fermentation technique borrowed from wine that changed how coffee is processed globally. And through Project Origin, he works with over 200 farmers, funding water wells that give 7,000+ people clean drinking water every day. It’s a conversation about refusing to quit when everyone tells you to, building a team that stays for a decade, and what happens when you stop chasing the perfect cup and start chasing something bigger.
What does it take to go from a two-year-old refugee with nothing to the Order of Australia, a respected Sydney law firm, and a charity feeding over a million people?
In this episode of Never Not Building, I sit down with Tom Zreika OAM, Managing Partner of Sterling Legal and Co-Founder of AusRelief. Tom’s family fled war-torn Lebanon when he was two years old, arriving in Australia with nothing. He grew up in Western Sydney as the only Lebanese kid at his school, where the daily reality was a quadrangle full of fights and a detention centre across the road.
Today, he runs one of Sydney’s most aggressive law firms, takes on the biggest names on the Eastern seaboard and wins, and has been awarded the Order of Australia Medal for services to law, community, and local government. Alongside the firm, he co-founded AusRelief. The charity now operates in 17 countries and has fed over a million people.
50 years on, he’ll still tell you straight that he doesn’t fully feel accepted in this country. This is a story about disadvantage as advantage, building twice – once for yourself, once for everyone else and what 24 years of fighting for the people the system forgets actually buys you.
$3B under management. 30 years. 8 acquisitions. Surviving the GFC. Keith Jones reveals where the wealthy actually invest.
This week on Never Not Building, I sit down with Keith Jones, CEO of Alteris Financial Group and one of the sharpest minds in Australian wealth management. With over $3 billion in funds under management and three decades scaling one of the country’s most trusted wealth firms – through eight acquisitions, the GFC, and now the rise of AI. Keith has seen every cycle worth learning from.
What does it take to build a $100M retail empire from a family salon and an eBay side hustle?
In this episode of Never Not Building, I sit down with Guy Nappa, Co-Owner and COO of Oz Hair & Beauty – and the man just named #1 in Australian e-commerce by Inside Retail for the second year running.
Guy started as a warehouse packer during school holidays, dropped out of uni, and became the operational backbone behind one of Australia’s fastest-growing omnichannel retailers. While his brother Anthony leads the vision, Guy built the machine – the systems, the processes, and the infrastructure that took Oz Hair & Beauty from a Corolla full of eBay orders to 30 stores and counting. This is a story about delayed gratification, operational obsession, and what it really takes to scale a family business without breaking it.
What does it take to defend people when the stakes are life changing?
In this episode of Never Not Building, I sit down with criminal defence lawyer Jahan Kalantar, founder of Executive Law Group and one of the most recognisable legal voices online.
Jahan has built a reputation for fearless advocacy in the courtroom and sharp insight on social media. But behind the headlines is a story about resilience, identity, and building a modern professional brand in an old school industry.
We unpack the mindset required when your work involves defending people in some of the most high pressure situations imaginable, and how Jahan turned law, content, and purpose into a powerful platform.
Belonging is rarely instant – it’s built slowly through consistency, credibility, and trust.
In this episode, we sit down with Monika Tu, one of Australia’s leading figures in luxury real estate and a standout agent on Luxe Listings Sydney.
As the founder and CEO of Black Diamonds Group, Monika specialises in representing ultra-high-net-worth individuals, with a strong focus on the Asian luxury property market, including Chinese buyers, and international high-net-worth clients seeking prestige Sydney real estate.
Her work spans off-market luxury homes, trophy properties, and high-value transactions across Sydney’s most exclusive suburbs, where discretion, cultural fluency, and long-term trust are essential. Monika’s deep understanding of cross-border property investment, Asian buyer expectations, and global wealth migration has positioned her as a trusted advisor in the international luxury real estate space. But her journey wasn’t linear. After starting over in a new country, Monika navigated identity, culture, and leadership in an industry where credibility isn’t given – it’s earned.
Commercial property has long been seen as an exclusive game. In this episode, Scott O’Neill breaks that belief apart.
Scott is a former civil engineer who engineered his own path to financial freedom by 28 and went on to build one of Australia’s most influential property investment groups. We unpack what it really takes to scale wealth, manage risk like a professional, and build a business that outlives you.
This is a grounded, honest conversation about patience, discipline, and thinking in decades, not deals.
What does it take to scale a $100M company and still want to do it all again?
In this episode of Never Not Building, I sit down with Jeremy Cabral, co-founder and former COO of Finder, the comparison site used by over 35 million people each year.
We unpack what really drove that growth: the content engine that scaled, the flywheels that created momentum, and the moments where trust mattered more than revenue. Jeremy also shares what happened when he hit a personal tipping point, dropping 20kg, running a marathon, and rebuilding with clarity.
If you’re chasing momentum, building visibility, or trying to scale without burning out, this one’s for you.
Ravi Sharma is the founder of Search Property and the voice behind one of Australia’s largest real estate YouTube channels. What started as a way to document his own investing journey turned into a platform that now drives trust, education, and real outcomes for thousands of people.
In this episode, Ravi breaks down how he built his property portfolio alongside a growing business, why YouTube became his long term play, and how being himself online helped him stand out in a crowded industry. We also get into regional versus metro investing, rent vesting, delayed gratification, and the deal that taught him the most.
Vic Gigliotti: From Sleeping in the Warehouse to Building a Global Fitness Empire
In this episode of Never Not Building, Andrew Raso sits down with Vic Gigliotti, founder and CEO of Muscle Republic — the Australian fitness label built on heart, hustle, and community.
From hitting rock bottom and sleeping in his warehouse, to building one of the country’s most-loved activewear brands, Vic shares the raw truth behind entrepreneurship — the setbacks, the breakthroughs, and the relentless mindset that kept him moving.
Babak Moini: From Near Homeless to a $650 Million Exit
As the co-founder of Laser Clinics Australia, Babak Moini helped shape a global brand. But before any of that happened, he went through a business failure that changed the way he thought about leadership and growth.
Episode 6 explores that transition and the long list of lessons he carried into his next chapter. It is an honest and very relatable conversation about learning from the tough moments.
Taryn Williams: From Model to Million-Dollar Founder
Taryn Williams built Wink Models and The Right Fit, disrupted industries that were stuck in the past, raised millions in venture capital, and successfully exited both companies before launching into AI consulting.
We talk about:
- What it takes to scale without losing your soul;
- How to choose the right investors (and why you can’t get divorced from them), and;
- Why leadership in 2025 demands a different kind of resilience.
Taryn also shares how she’s helping businesses reinvent themselves with AI, and how the future belongs to those who adapt first.
Tim Fung: No Hacks. No Shortcuts. Just Ten Years of Building Airtasker to $500M
What does it really take to build a billion-dollar marketplace from scratch?
In this episode of Never Not Building, Andrew Raso sits down with Tim Fung, co-founder and CEO of Airtasker, one of Australia’s biggest startup success stories.
From doing KFC deliveries himself to get the platform moving, to burning through $2 million a month while expanding overseas, Tim shares the raw, unfiltered story of building Airtasker. The mistakes, lessons, and mindset shifts behind scaling a global brand.
Jay Pottenger: The ROI You Can’t Afford to Ignore
In this episode, Jay Pottenger, a veteran entrepreneur, investor, and business strategist, dives into the ROI you can’t afford to ignore.With years of experience helping companies scale and leaders rethink growth, Jay shares insights that challenge conventional thinking and uncover opportunities most people overlook. He gets real about the choices, habits, and decisions that drive success, beyond the numbers, and explains why some returns are far more valuable than profits alone.
Expect eye-opening stories, actionable takeaways, and a few perspectives that could completely change the way you approach business, leadership, and your own personal growth.
Whether you’re leading a team, scaling a business, or just curious about smarter ways to invest your time and resources, this episode is packed with lessons that stick.
Sam Bashiry: From Refugee to Telco Titan: How I Risked Everything to Build an Empire
In this episode, Sam Bashiry shares his remarkable journey from an Iranian refugee to one of Australia’s most formidable telco entrepreneurs. After arriving in Australia at age 10 and enduring three years in detention, Sam turned hardship into fuel, building Broadband Solutions from a $500 gamble to a dominant force serving over 800 hotels. But success didn’t stop at profits.
Sam gets real about battling giants like Telstra, redefining founder clichés, and why fulfillment goes beyond wealth. Expect raw lessons on faking it ‘til you make it, outworking talent, walking away from toxic clients, and why success means stopping to “smell the flowers.”
If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to break cycles, build empires, and stay grounded, this one’s for you.
Domenic Giampaolo: “I Was Insolvent Twice… and Still Built a $150M Business”
In the debut episode of Never Not Building, Andrew sits down with Domenic Giampaolo, CEO and founder of Elite Supplements, to dive deep into what it really takes to scale a business with 140+ stores and 500+ staff.
They cover how Al is reshaping hiring, why founder presence matters, and the emotional weight of scaling a business. Domenic opens up about the discipline he gained through failure and what keeps him driven. Plus, they wrap up with a rapid-fire round: Founder Clichés and Tactics.
Lessons, losses, and launch strategies – it’s all inside. Press play.
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What does it take to defend people when the stakes are life changing?
In this episode of Never Not Building, I sit down with criminal defence lawyer Jahan Kalantar, founder of Executive Law Group and one of the most recognisable legal voices online.
Jahan has built a reputation for fearless advocacy in the courtroom and sharp insight on social media. But behind the headlines is a story about resilience, identity, and building a modern professional brand in an old school industry.
We unpack the mindset required when your work involves defending people in some of the most high pressure situations imaginable, and how Jahan turned law, content, and purpose into a powerful platform.
What does it take to defend people when the stakes are life changing?
In this episode of Never Not Building, I sit down with criminal defence lawyer Jahan Kalantar, founder of Executive Law Group and one of the most recognisable legal voices online.
Jahan has built a reputation for fearless advocacy in the courtroom and sharp insight on social media. But behind the headlines is a story about resilience, identity, and building a modern professional brand in an old school industry.
We unpack the mindset required when your work involves defending people in some of the most high pressure situations imaginable, and how Jahan turned law, content, and purpose into a powerful platform.